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deimne
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:31 pm Reply with quote
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spiritcrusher wrote:
The Haunted are an awful, awful disgrace to themselves. To disband ATG and start a generic American sounding "core" type band... Ugh. I really can't stand them. And I ain't the biggest ATG fan.

Pantera have just 2 albums worth listening to (bar one or two songs).

they didnt sound as generic and americ-core when they started - the rot set in by the 3rd album i reckon. about the same time those copyist americans started to get noticed over here I suppose.
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Acid Theatre
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:35 pm Reply with quote
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Bane wrote:
Anyone who refers to Sunn O))) as Doom needs to be marched down an alley and shot in the knees.

I agree... I think Doom is good.

Burzum's Det Som Engang Var is highly overrated. Minimal basic Black metal at it's worst.
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FERGLOR
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:37 pm Reply with quote
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Acid Theatre wrote:
Bane wrote:
Anyone who refers to Sunn O))) as Doom needs to be marched down an alley and shot in the knees.

I agree... I think Doom is good.

Burzum's Det Som Engang Var is highly overrated. Minimal basic Black metal at it's worst.


whats minimal basic bm at its best than? what i like about burzum is the minimalism!
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Necrosis
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:38 pm Reply with quote
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spiritcrusher wrote:
The Haunted are an awful, awful disgrace to themselves. To disband ATG and start a generic American sounding "core" type band... Ugh. I really can't stand them. And I ain't the biggest ATG fan.

Pantera have just 2 albums worth listening to (bar one or two songs).


what are the 2 out of interest?
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FERGLOR
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:39 pm Reply with quote
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Necrosis wrote:
spiritcrusher wrote:
The Haunted are an awful, awful disgrace to themselves. To disband ATG and start a generic American sounding "core" type band... Ugh. I really can't stand them. And I ain't the biggest ATG fan.

Pantera have just 2 albums worth listening to (bar one or two songs).




what are the 2 out of interest?


i would say power metal and cowboys.. selective tracks from each.


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Invictus
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:39 pm Reply with quote
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Padre Pio wrote:
So my mind has now been made up!

Padre, you had your mind made up before seeing them the second time! Laughing However, they weren't very good on Saturday night, that's for sure!
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spiritcrusher
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:44 pm Reply with quote
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Necrosis wrote:
spiritcrusher wrote:
The Haunted are an awful, awful disgrace to themselves. To disband ATG and start a generic American sounding "core" type band... Ugh. I really can't stand them. And I ain't the biggest ATG fan.

Pantera have just 2 albums worth listening to (bar one or two songs).


what are the 2 out of interest?

I'd say Cowboys and Vulgar Display, although even Cowboys has a few below average stuff.
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deimne
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:44 pm Reply with quote
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another one- generally, when it comes to modern music anyway - female musicians suck.

I have never been blown away by a musical performance (drums, guitar, songwriting even) by a female musician. It's not helped that males seem to feel the need to blow things out of all proportion with undeserved compliements on musicianship, just cos of being female.
(i used to play bass in a not quite proper metal band, and often had many compliments on my playing despite the fact that I was just competant but trying to stretch my ability with fills and things)

Vocals on the other hand - Agnete M Kirkevaag just..mmmm. vocally.
( I specify modern music, as i have witnessed some classical / traditional musicians who were female and mind blowing)


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Padre Pio
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:48 pm Reply with quote
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deimne wrote:

I have never been blown away by a musical performance (drums, guitar, songwriting even) by a female musician.


GALLHAMMER

Great music from three women (who can hardly play their instruments).

@ Invictus - I guess you're right, but my mind is even more made up now. Laughing
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Acid Theatre
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:49 pm Reply with quote
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FERGLOR wrote:
what i like about burzum is the minimalism!

Really? It just doesn't click with me, the only Burzum song I still like to this day is Lost Wisdom, ironically enough from Det Som Engang Var.
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deimne
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:00 pm Reply with quote
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Padre Pio wrote:
deimne wrote:

I have never been blown away by a musical performance (drums, guitar, songwriting even) by a female musician.


GALLHAMMER

Great music from three women (who can hardly play their instruments).

@ Invictus - I guess you're right, but my mind is even more made up now. Laughing


that's the point I was making
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BloodyTroopsOfDoom
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:02 pm Reply with quote
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The majority of Pantera fans [atleast in Belfast] were never "die hard", what they would call themselves now, Pantera fans until Dimebag died.

Band tattoo's look shit to everyone else but the person who has it [I have one myself and I like it Razz]
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Padre Pio
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:02 pm Reply with quote
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deimne wrote:


that's the point I was making


You referred to "musical performance" and "songwriting".

Gallhammer blew me away with both of these when I saw them two weeks ago.

I just don't think they should enter an arpeggio playing contest.
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DrillerKiller
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:08 pm Reply with quote
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FERGLOR wrote:


Pantera have just 2 albums worth listening to (bar one or two songs).


what are the 2 out of interest?[/quote]

i would say power metal and cowboys.. selective tracks from each.[/quote]

Really? I think Far Beyond Driven blows every other Pantera album out of the water. It's sound is a fresh, almost eerily industrial sounding departure, like it was recorded in some other realm, and the songwriting is much rawer (with a few exceptions).

Controversial...emmm....Slayer are a poor man's Testament? Nah, too obvious. Laughing Must. Think. Harder.
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deimne
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:10 pm Reply with quote
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Padre Pio wrote:
deimne wrote:


that's the point I was making


You referred to "musical performance" and "songwriting".

Gallhammer blew me away with both of these when I saw them two weeks ago.

I just don't think they should enter an arpeggio playing contest.


I would think that ability to play instruments would fall under the category of musical performance. I guess that's a matter of opinion.
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