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thesonglessbird
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:11 pm Reply with quote
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deimne wrote:
another one- generally, when it comes to modern music anyway - female musicians suck.

I have never been blown away by a musical performance (drums, guitar, songwriting even) by a female musician. It's not helped that males seem to feel the need to blow things out of all proportion with undeserved compliements on musicianship, just cos of being female.
(i used to play bass in a not quite proper metal band, and often had many compliments on my playing despite the fact that I was just competant but trying to stretch my ability with fills and things)

Vocals on the other hand - Agnete M Kirkevaag just..mmmm. vocally.
( I specify modern music, as i have witnessed some classical / traditional musicians who were female and mind blowing)


You ninkenpoop.

Go wash your ears out and get hold of the following:

Double Leopards - A Hole Is True
Harry Pussy - What Was Music (best female drumming/vocals ever)
Royal Trux - Twin Infinitives
Shizuka - Heavenly Persona
Religious Knoves - Remains
Hototogisu - Green
Josephine Foster - A Wolf In Sheeps Clothing
16 Bitch Pile-Up - anything
MV & EE - anything (though Mother of Thousands and Green Blues will do it)

Your legs are stumps and you cannot stand on them.
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thesonglessbird
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:12 pm Reply with quote
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99% of metal is unadultereated pre-pubescent hissy-fit nonsense.
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agoraphobic_nosebleed
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:15 pm Reply with quote
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Isis havent done anything interesting since Oceanic.
Katatonia need a new singer. Brave Murder Day is their best album.
Sunn O))) are actually really fucking deadly
(especially when off one's face)
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Dj-Nemesis
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:16 pm Reply with quote
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FERGLOR wrote:
can you guys give reasons or some kind of qualification about why you dont like iced earth/manowar?

if the thread was "i think this band are shite i think that band are shite" this thread would run for about 1000 pages...


Can you give reasons that you think Emperor are more power metal than black metal?

And with Iced Earth, I think the songs are either boring or a collection of REALLY good riffs that aren't put together overly well. That and the material Schaffer put out with Demons and Wizards was just SO much better.

As well as that, I don't particularly like Barlow's vocals but Ripper Owens has always just REALLY irritated me!

Perhaps not enough reason to write them off as shite but BY GOD, they annoy me.
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Acid Theatre
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:19 pm Reply with quote
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Anathema's newer material is just as good as the early and mid-period works.
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Dj-Nemesis
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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Acid Theatre wrote:
Anathema's newer material is just as good as the early and mid-period works.


AGREE 100%!
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BAGGY
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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John Kimble wrote:
Bane wrote:
Here's one:
Anthrax only released one good album - Fistful of Metal. The rest are shite, mid-tempo tripe.


I'd agree with that one alright..

Here's another..

Godflesh's best album is Songs of Love and Hate. Yes, better than Streetcleaner.


NOTHINGT WRONG THERE!!! Songs of love uand hate is a blinder - and yeah quite a few of their albums are better than streetcleaner which in itself is an all time classic!! classic band!

Now what's all this MASTADON crap??? I've made the effort, trust me, but they are so average its just not worth talking about. Neurosis - whats that all about?

Heres something really controversial - the last 2 SLAYER albums are very good, they aint nu metal (oh how i laughted!) as some twats said
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Daithi
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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To continue on from The Haunted thing earlier...

'Slaughter Of The Soul' is a bag of shite. The nadir of At The Gates' output. The fact that it gave birth to two godawful 'new' genres (Gothenburg Metal and Metalcore) just goes to show that the average Metal fan doesn't know his arse from his elbow.
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Era VulgaChris
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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The majority of active Pantera haters only hate them because it makes them, and therefore all their metal opinions, appear to have more credibility. Great Southern Trendkill is their best in my opinion. Here's another controversial opinion; Pantera did not rip off Exhorder, there's only a few months in the difference of both their emergences and not a single member of Exhorder was talented or smart enough to gain them any sort of commercial success, instead resorting to puerile humour and outdated shock tactics which, thankfully, in no way compensated for them not being able to string together enough decent songs to develop an audience. The only vague similarity is in vocal style at points. Trouble sound far more like Black Sabbath than Pantera sound like Exhorder and I don't hear anyone crying about that.

Dream Theater suck big fat donkey balls, can't write a song to save their lives, there's so many tangents in the music that you lose all sense of theme or congruity, James La Brie constantly sounds like there's a weasel living in his throat squeezing every strained note out of his vocal chords, he has destroyed every attempt they ever made at writing decent songs. he fact that the other members of Dream Theater don't notice this proves more than any other point that they will never be able to compare themselves to any of the greats they claim to be influenced by. Secretly I think John Myung was a mail order bride of Mike Portnoy's who they forced to learn bass and dress up as a man, he would leave the band if he could but then he would have to return to his previous life in a brothel in Singapore.
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Snatchgrabber
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:21 pm Reply with quote
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:27 pm Reply with quote
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that avatar is priceless.vadge i presume!!??

spiritcrusher wrote:

I'd say Cowboys and Vulgar Display, although even Cowboys has a few below average stuff.


not massively into the others but that is definelty a controversal opinion.it's every other album that has below average stuff.


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Padre Pio
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:27 pm Reply with quote
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thesonglessbird wrote:
99% of metal is unadultereated pre-pubescent hissy-fit nonsense.


Says the guy with the My Dying Bride user name. Wink
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DrillerKiller
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:29 pm Reply with quote
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agoraphobic_nosebleed wrote:
Isis havent done anything interesting since Oceanic.
(especially when off one's face)


Darn tootin'.

Black Sabbath have just as many shite songs as they have great ones.
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ResidentOfBok
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:30 pm Reply with quote
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emperor are more power metal than black metal


Listen to Night of the Graveless Souls you schmuck.

I'd agree that they took a massive leap foward on Anthems to a symphonic sound, something that that a lot of later power metal bands also did. But the atmosphere of something like Ye Entrancemperium and some shite that Blind Guardian come out with are so far apart it's criminally deaf of you to call them power metal.

On that note, a lot of what is called Power Metal is almost totally useless tripe that I wouldn't touch with a twelve foot stick.
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DrillerKiller
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:32 pm Reply with quote
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Lamb Of God are boring.
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