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| colmtesticles |
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| id agree with that also....but my point is that ya dont dismiss a band because they use a technique well that is used by other bands that are shit. |
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| Eoin McLove |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:27 pm |
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| Having blast beats is not the problem. Using blast beats as a main selling point is. Then again I prefer atmosphere to technicality, that is why I'd put the likes of Necros Christos or Dead Congregation on before I'd listen to Necrophagist or the like. |
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| colmtesticles |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:37 pm |
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| I think we are singing from the same him sheet here.... |
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| Helvte |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:38 pm |
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Eoin McLove wrote: Having blast beats is not the problem. Using blast beats as a main selling point is..
Agree totally, I think its a bad sign if the main selling point is how proficient they are technically. It kind of says we can play instruments but cant make good/interesting music. |
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| Padre Pio |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:39 pm |
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colmtesticles wrote: id agree with that also....but my point is that ya dont dismiss a band because they use a technique well that is used by other bands that are shit.
I wouldn't refuse to listen to a band because they use this or that technique. (As for Terrorizer's gravity blast in that song, I honestly couldn't hear it. My ears aren't particularly fine tuned I guess).
It's just that I'm not a fan of very technical stuff and if the discussion around a band centres around technical stuff and BPM - almost like the stats that surround American football or baseball - rather than factors like riffing, atmosphere and the like, then I can assume I'm not too likely to like them.
Of course, if I hear something that I like I'm not going to discount it because their drummer or guitarist uses all sorts of great techniques that people wank over. If I did, I'd have to ditch my Immolation albums. |
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| colmtesticles |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:45 pm |
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true. Im all about atmosphere and riffing also....but i appreciate good technique when i hear it. Also i dont that that technical bands dont have an atmosphere... some of em, like necrophagist, have a dark, cold atmosphere. Which i think is as legitimate an atmosphere as some of the more filthy bands...
Now i prefer the filthier sound of the like of dead congregation and immolation but i can appreciate technical bands like necophagist. Not for there sweeping this or bpm that but for the same reason i like dead congregation....deadly riffs and songs. |
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| Eoin McLove |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:04 pm |
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| Nothing wrong with technicality once the song is the main priority. I think we are all agreed, now let us all have a communal heavy metal hi five and compare willy sizes. |
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| DALE9892 |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:15 pm |
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colmtesticles wrote: necrophagist, have a dark, cold atmosphere.
maybe on onset... but no way can that be said for epitaph.
well maybe the cold part...but that production wise... |
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| Helvte |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:16 pm |
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Eoin McLove wrote: Nothing wrong with technicality once the song is the main priority. I think we are all agreed, now let us all have a communal heavy metal hi five and compare willy sizes.
But you have no willy... |
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| Eoin McLove |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:19 pm |
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| Technically I actually have. It just isn't attached to my body but that makes it easier to measure and leave one hand free for a heavy metal hi five. |
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| BoobC |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:48 pm |
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| I thought it was the drumming equivalent of extreme ironing? |
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| Helvte |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:08 pm |
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Eoin McLove wrote: Technically I actually have. It just isn't attached to my body but that makes it easier to measure and leave one hand free for a heavy metal hi five.
Also could be used to do a gravity blast |
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| deimne |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:08 pm |
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Eoin McLove wrote: Technically I actually have. It just isn't attached to my body but that makes it easier to measure and leave one hand free for a heavy metal hi five.
You never mentioned that in the 'how's your willy' chat t'other evening.
I think necrophagist are on the musical side of the technique vs songs argument... I really enjoy the knackerfagits accapella (SP?) version of 'Seven'... and ye know, only a good choon can really translate like that. |
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| JuniorOpenCasket |
| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:12 pm |
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deimne wrote:
I think necrophagist are on the musical side of the technique vs songs argument...
I agree. In fact, alot of the bridges and interludes in their songs are very slow and don't have blastbeats at all... And some songs are groovy throughout, like 'The Stillborn One' for instance. |
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| ollkiller |
| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:53 am |
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| The ould gravity blast. Using the snare as the fulcrum point is the easy way and is not actually that hard to do. Using the push pull is way harder and requires a few months sitting with an ould pad in front of you. Most bands that use it over do it. Get the Devournment album. Perfect example of brilliant gravity blast used sparingly but to devastating effect. |
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