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< Music Gear ~ Best Way to use Guitar Pro |
| Infected |
 Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:38 am |
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So I've been fuckin with this for about 8 months now, I went through a phase of just sitting there writing shit on it and then learning it on the guitar afterwards, but found that I would limit myself too much when writing on that...
But I also find that when I write stuff on guitar, it's always slightly better, and then try transcribe it I can't get the note duration or what have ya right...
How does everyone else go about it? |
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| bastard of bodom |
| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:20 pm |
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I just started using it. I find it really quite useful because I'm a forgetful bastard and have lost some cool riffs over time from simply being to lazy to write it down.
I have the same problem with the note duration though. I'm not the best one to give advice, but it I can tell you that it started to run smoother for me when I changed the tempo from the default 120 to 140. It seemed to fit with the stuff I was coming up with. |
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| Zero Squiggles |
| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:36 pm |
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| Ive learned a fair few songs using it but never got around to writing music with it yet. |
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| DALE9892 |
| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:20 pm |
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| whenever i right anything on guitar i dont think ive ever been able to make it sound anything like it on guitar pro... |
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| Mazzy Maz |
| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:15 pm |
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I love guitar pro. Took me a while to get used to it because i can't read music so i had the usual note duration problems mentioned above.
However, after a couple months i find it indispensable. I tab up riffs / songs and email to my band mates who then learn the riffs and write bass lines / lyrics etc. When we get to practice we just knock out the tune, no time wasted showing each other riffs and learning arrangements. Deadly. |
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| Padraig |
| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:51 pm |
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you can tell the guys who write music with guitar pro cause the phrasing is usually shite, lol. Write on the guitar and than learn to count the beat. I generally base stuff off 8ths. 1&2&3&4&.
1 - i'll find a nice tempo
2 - put in hihats playing a steady 1&2&3&4& with a cymbal on the 1 and a snare on the 3 to keep time,
3 - next i'll make a guitar track with 8 rest notes.
4 - than I'll clap the rhythm of my riff while following the hihat pattern till i get the rhythm
5 - take note of which beat of the bar each note falls on
6 - go back to the above track and type in the note on the beat where its respective clap fell
7 - clean it up. |
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| Jester_Script |
| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:27 pm |
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Thats a very good tip mate! i'm gonna give that a go later!
Yeah steve man I tried tabbing out the riffs we were playing at the last practise bu no luck at all, It just sounded god awful in guitar pro  |
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| demeyes |
| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:47 pm |
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| I don't like writing in guitar pro. I find I write riffs way better in real life and I find stuff I write in it too stale. If I want to compose stuff with a PC I usually go straight to MIDI. I find it has way better options and I find it easier to compose in the piano roll. I don't think I even use guitar pro for tabs now either. I got tuxguitar which is an open source version that allows you to read all guitar pro and powertab files in it. |
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| Perpetual-Burn |
| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:44 pm |
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Infected wrote: So I've been fuckin with this for about 8 months now, I went through a phase of just sitting there writing shit on it and then learning it on the guitar afterwards, but found that I would limit myself too much when writing on that...
But I also find that when I write stuff on guitar, it's always slightly better, and then try transcribe it I can't get the note duration or what have ya right...
How does everyone else go about it?
I think the best way to go about it is to write whatever your writing on your chosen instrument first, then transcribe it to Guitar Pro. Sometimes getting the exact note duration is a pain the arse but it is acheivable with a little bit of work and you'll end up learning more about the program as your working on it. |
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| bastard of bodom |
| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:12 pm |
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Oh, don't know if this will be helpful to anyone, but I discovered today that you can change the tempo of the same song. For example, you can have the intro slow at 100, but change another section of the song by hitting F10. You probably knew that though.  |
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| Niallzorz |
| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:33 pm |
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There is bearly any point in getting guitar pro if you don't know musical theory which the majority of metal guitars dont know anyway.
For those who don't know theory i would say just to tap out what you think is the tempo, play a bar in a loop and raise or lower the tempo until you get it right, but thats only tempo, then you have to consider time signatures, the tonality of the song and if you dont know any scales. go to scale finder and it will show you a wide varity of different scales, but then again if you dont know scales why would you be writing a song? it would be like racing in the grand prix without a car.. |
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| demeyes |
| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:18 pm |
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Niallzorz wrote:
For those who don't know theory i would say just to tap out what you think is the tempo, play a bar in a loop and raise or lower the tempo until you get it right, but thats only tempo, then you have to consider time signatures, the tonality of the song and if you dont know any scales. go to scale finder and it will show you a wide varity of different scales, but then again if you dont know scales why would you be writing a song? it would be like racing in the grand prix without a car..
You don't need to know scales to write a song, people do it the whole time and get away with it. I'd agree though, knowing theory will make counting note durations in GP much easier.
Also for getting the tempo, I'd use a metrenome with a tap function instead of messing around with hit or miss stuff, that can get really annoying. Try this site out for an online one. You can save the page and use it offline if you want too. http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm |
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| Overdosed |
| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:00 pm |
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Jester_Script wrote: Yeah steve man I tried tabbing out the riffs we were playing at the last practise bu no luck at all, It just sounded god awful in guitar pro
Ha!! I think I got it at this stage  no drums in yet but yeah... |
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| ConsumedByVenom |
| Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:48 am |
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| Im a drummer and i basically write everything on guitar pro now, I find if im trying to jam along its alright but usually i come up with much more interesting patterns and beats if i write them out. Its probably to do with muscle memory and a lot of the time when im jammin i play stuff i already know or beats im already comfortable with, if i write them down first i can write perfectly to the riff or melody or bass or whatever more competently, and then just learn it. |
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| ConsumedByVenom |
| Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:49 am |
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| Though you do need to use a bit of imagination with the sound, the guitar pro RSE is a piece of shit. |
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