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boysetsdavies
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:24 am Reply with quote
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 4241 Location: South West of England
I'm looking advice on buying a new head. I currently play an Ibanez 8string and I'm looking a head that'll suit CoL, Isis, Rosetta type sound and something a bit cleaner like Explosions in the Sky. Atmospheric Sludge and a Post-Rock type sound.

I've a budget of 800 pounds.

Any advice?
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Doctor J
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:09 am Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 1168 Location: Gurt
When Isis played TBMC a few years back at least one of them was using a Roland JC120.
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conquest of the rat
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:38 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Galway
boysetsdavies wrote:
I'm looking advice on buying a new head. I currently play an Ibanez 8string and I'm looking a head that'll suit CoL, Isis, Rosetta type sound and something a bit cleaner like Explosions in the Sky. Atmospheric Sludge and a Post-Rock type sound.

I've a budget of 800 pounds.

Any advice?

they(isis) used to use sunn heads now think they changed to hiwatt its really trial and error

are you going for the sludgey side of these bands or the cleaner side?

plus they all use valve amps this is a HUGE factor in their sounds

http://www.thomann.de/ie/marshall_tsl60.htm
http://www.thomann.de/ie/marshall_mr1936_stereo_box.htm
http://sunnamps.com/

you might have to up your budget a fair bit if you dont find something good on ebay
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boysetsdavies
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:46 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 4241 Location: South West of England
I'm only interested in buying a head. Actually both man! I'm interested in having both options.
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conquest of the rat
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:52 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Galway
boysetsdavies wrote:
I'm only interested in buying a head. Actually both man! I'm interested in having both options.



keep an eye on ebay for a marshall or if you find a nice orange mkII but for 800 beans you wont get much, valve head is the way forward


this is what i use http://www.thomann.de/ie/mesa_boogie_single_rectifer.htm it gives you the definition in the sludge/drone parts and nice clear parts
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boysetsdavies
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:29 am Reply with quote
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 4241 Location: South West of England
conquest of the rat wrote:
boysetsdavies wrote:
I'm only interested in buying a head. Actually both man! I'm interested in having both options.



keep an eye on ebay for a marshall or if you find a nice orange mkII but for 800 beans you wont get much, valve head is the way forward



this is what i use http://www.thomann.de/ie/mesa_boogie_single_rectifer.htm it gives you the definition in the sludge/drone parts and nice clear parts


I'm only 17, so I'm just looking to build up my gear.
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LittleDaveSoundEngineer
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:11 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 222 Location: Waterford
get your hands on one of these for a go.

used once recently , was bllooowwnn away, soo cheap but sounds serious

given your budget you'd actually save a nice bit to spend on whatever else tickles your fancy.

http://www.thomann.de/ie/peavey_valve_king_head.htm

if i were buying one (which i might buy for my studio eventually) id actually buy the 50watt combo and gut it and turn it into a rackmounthead.
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RedMachineKieran
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:57 am Reply with quote
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 751 Location: Newcastle, Co Down
http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=JCM800

the only amp Justin Broadrick uses. He swears by the tones generated by this badboy!
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evil crawling i
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:45 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 398 Location: Amity Island
Isis i know now use VHT amps live. Used to use Fender Sunn amps and Mesa. anything good and loud should do the trick. when we played with Cult of Luna they used Fender and orange, but had loads of distortion and overdrive pedals for different flavours.
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skadk666
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:40 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 2695 Location: Ah hayer, leave it bleedin ouh!
LittleDaveSoundEngineer wrote:
get your hands on one of these for a go.

used once recently , was bllooowwnn away, soo cheap but sounds serious

given your budget you'd actually save a nice bit to spend on whatever else tickles your fancy.

http://www.thomann.de/ie/peavey_valve_king_head.htm

if i were buying one (which i might buy for my studio eventually) id actually buy the 50watt combo and gut it and turn it into a rackmounthead.


OH yeah Dave you know it, cant go wrong with a Valveking! Next time were down with you recording im bringin mine! Haha!
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Stephen BroMalley
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:35 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1239 Location: digging a neghole
These are nice because you can use plain ol 6 string pickups, which are usually cheaper and more varied than 7 string jobs.
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DiezelShredder
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:39 am Reply with quote
Joined: 03 Aug 2009 Posts: 539
2nd hand Diezel Einstein= Great Clean Channel , superb Rhythm and lead Channel and excellent vintage overdrive output can also mix power tubes for different output response and the bias trim pot is very easy to get to and adjust .the einstein will cut through any band mix with ease, powerfull well built quality all tube head .
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duffer
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:53 am Reply with quote
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 289 Location: left a bit...right a bit..
Just bought a Peavey Winsdor for bugger all - retubed it [as I do with all second hand heads]

Lower gain tubes in the preamp stage - this thing is pure early 70`s.
Not a metal amp, but with lower gain preamp tubes, it is ACDC. Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy ...very old Brit amp sounding for pocket money second hand.

Built like a tank also, with fuses all over the circuit boards..so reliability shouldnt be a problem.
My past experience of Peavey has been crappy solid state stuff in the 80`s [not good] but I`m impressed with this amp.
The Valve King is supposedly also good, but more "American" [read metallica] voiced than this.
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