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Scum -Dan
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:59 pm Reply with quote
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I started playing guitar a while back and am looking to record parts so I can practice playing with another piece.

I've seen a few recommendations on here for various bits of kit to do this, but they are all quite expensive. Is there a way to do this on a budget with decent results?

I was thinking along the lines of this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-UCG102-USB-Guitar-Link/dp/B000PAPO9W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325861385&sr=8-2

But obviously a lot of the feedback is that there is lag, which is not a major issue for what I want it for, but if possible I would prefer there were none.

I saw the Line 6 gx/ux recommended on here, but at £80, it's just a bit out of my price range right now.

Thanks for the help
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demeyes
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:40 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 525 Location: Limerick
Honestly you get what you pay for when it comes to recording gear. Also it's generally advised that if a piece of gear says Behringer it's probably better avoided!
A lot of people get decent results with the Line 6 stuff and it's designed for guitarists, it might be worth just saving for that as it's still not that expensive compared to a decent interface.
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spiderjazz
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:58 am Reply with quote
Joined: 14 Apr 2011 Posts: 55 Location: Cork
Scum -Dan wrote:
I started playing guitar a while back and am looking to record parts so I can practice playing with another piece.

I've seen a few recommendations on here for various bits of kit to do this, but they are all quite expensive. Is there a way to do this on a budget with decent results?

I was thinking along the lines of this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-UCG102-USB-Guitar-Link/dp/B000PAPO9W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325861385&sr=8-2

But obviously a lot of the feedback is that there is lag, which is not a major issue for what I want it for, but if possible I would prefer there were none.

I saw the Line 6 gx/ux recommended on here, but at £80, it's just a bit out of my price range right now.

Thanks for the help


Had one of those behringers before, awful heap of shite, avoid it. Laggy and very noisy, very frustrating piece of equipment to use.

I'd recommend saving up a bit more and getting a decent 2 input interface. If you get something with a good name/reputation, you're gonna save yourself the hassle that nearly inevitably comes along with the cheaper stuff and it'll make playing/recording a lot easier/pleasurable to do. Also by getting a interface, you could use it for recording vocals/bass down the line.

I'd recommend a Focusrite Saffire 6 if you're looking for a very clean interface that will give you good results, should be able to pick one up secondhand for around 130 euro.

There's so many great free amp sims out there at the moment as well that you wouldn't have to get buy anything else to be able to get good sounding guitar tracks.
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Scum -Dan
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:48 pm Reply with quote
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Ok cool, thanks for the advice. I'll save up a bit and get something worthwhile rather than the cheap crap.

Quite looking forward to it now.
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open face surgery
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:59 am Reply with quote
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While we're on the subject. For practice, I play my guitar through a pedal board and then hook the pedal up to my stereo through the aux. Is there a simple way for me to hook the stereo up to the computer to record?
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spiderjazz
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:55 pm Reply with quote
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open face surgery wrote:
While we're on the subject. For practice, I play my guitar through a pedal board and then hook the pedal up to my stereo through the aux. Is there a simple way for me to hook the stereo up to the computer to record?


Have you some sort of amp simulator/multi fx on the pedalboard? If so, you might have a headphone out from that which you could connect up to the line in on your computer, as that should be able to take a line level signal. You could use a program like Reaper to record that signal then.
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Leather Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:45 pm Reply with quote
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if it's just for practise recording, go cheap and cheerful and keep your eye out for a Line6 TonePort. I've got one and it's handy as hell. Plug it into your pc, plug your guitar into it, and away you go. Amp/effects chain/cab simulators on it are decent and it comes with Ableton Lite recording software. Proper handy bit of kit.
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starscream
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:44 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 4576 Location: Vat De Kunt Ov Vintuur! AIEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Leather Mike wrote:
if it's just for practise recording, go cheap and cheerful and keep your eye out for a Line6 TonePort. I've got one and it's handy as hell. Plug it into your pc, plug your guitar into it, and away you go. Amp/effects chain/cab simulators on it are decent and it comes with Ableton Lite recording software. Proper handy bit of kit.


This.

We do all the Red Six demoing through it. The drum loops you can download to jam with are great and if you are using another piece of recording software with say, Drumkit From Hell, the possibilities are limitless.
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Leather Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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Scum -Dan wrote:
I started playing guitar a while back and am looking to record parts so I can practice playing with another piece.

I've seen a few recommendations on here for various bits of kit to do this, but they are all quite expensive. Is there a way to do this on a budget with decent results?

I was thinking along the lines of this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-UCG102-USB-Guitar-Link/dp/B000PAPO9W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325861385&sr=8-2

But obviously a lot of the feedback is that there is lag, which is not a major issue for what I want it for, but if possible I would prefer there were none.

I saw the Line 6 gx/ux recommended on here, but at £80, it's just a bit out of my price range right now.

Thanks for the help


if you're looking a toneport i'll sell you one that's been used twice, with all the bits for it, for £50
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Necrohex
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:27 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 41 Location: Beyond the Unholy Grave
Anyone know if this is any good?
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Alesis-Guitarlink-Plus-USB-Cable-Guitar-Rig-Software-/120843682225?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item1c22d841b1#ht_2313wt_982

Guitar rig is an amplification program, I've looked at videos on youtube and it sounds pretty good. I'm sure the cable must be at least decent enough quality, and besides it's the software doing all the work, right?
What could go wrong, anyone?
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Scum -Dan
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:56 pm Reply with quote
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Leather Mike wrote:

if you're looking a toneport i'll sell you one that's been used twice, with all the bits for it, for £50


Thanks for the offer, but I got something sorted for just now. Sorry about the delay.
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Millsy_kobi
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:27 pm Reply with quote
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Necrohex wrote:
Anyone know if this is any good?
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Alesis-Guitarlink-Plus-USB-Cable-Guitar-Rig-Software-/120843682225?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item1c22d841b1#ht_2313wt_982

Guitar rig is an amplification program, I've looked at videos on youtube and it sounds pretty good. I'm sure the cable must be at least decent enough quality, and besides it's the software doing all the work, right?
What could go wrong, anyone?


Guitarig/amplitube etc aren't bad but the Cab emulators on them aren't great. In order to get a better sound on recordings I've been using impulses.

I'm not even sure how they work but basically someone has actually recorded how a certain Cab and created a file that recreates the tonalities and reverberation properies of that actual cab. If you use the available head's on amplitube, bypass thier cab simulators and use impulses instead you can get some pretty decent tones.

I'm still a learner myself though so don't take my word for gospel!!
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Necrohex
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:27 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 41 Location: Beyond the Unholy Grave
Millsy_kobi wrote:

Guitarig/amplitube etc aren't bad but the Cab emulators on them aren't great. In order to get a better sound on recordings I've been using impulses.

I'm not even sure how they work but basically someone has actually recorded how a certain Cab and created a file that recreates the tonalities and reverberation properies of that actual cab. If you use the available head's on amplitube, bypass thier cab simulators and use impulses instead you can get some pretty decent tones.

I'm still a learner myself though so don't take my word for gospel!!

Cool, thanks for the advice!
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Millsy_kobi
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:18 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 02 Apr 2011 Posts: 165
Great forum for info for recording and producing metal in your bedroom;

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap-151/

Also for impulse advice and presets for amplitube/guitarrig etc

http://www.guitarampmodeling.com/
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thejuice
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:32 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 3315 Location: Dena Lagu
I have a decent Roland USB interface. When I try recording from my amp to the PC there is an awful lot of crackling and interference.

Granted my amp is a small affordable little thing but it sounds fine normally and even with headphones. When I plug the guitar directly into the interface it sounds fine.

I am hoping to get a new multi-effects pedal soon, if I plug the pedal directly to the interface am I right in saying I should not expect any crackling or interference like I'm getting from the amp?
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