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richardanthonyc
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:03 am Reply with quote
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 1045 Location: Longford
blahblahbleh wrote:
richardanthonyc wrote:
Yeah that's me alright ya cuntbags. The thing that got this country into this mess is that people were incredibly greedy, they took out loans they knew they couldn't pay and if you were objective you would see that this fee is not going to affect anyone who actually lives in a house.



If you researched the financial crisis you would see that in order for these loans you mentioned to exist, they had to be green lighted by the bank. The banks mis sold loans and mortages left and right and made their cut. Oh yes and then they sold the loan on at a profit to a 3rd party and again made their cut. Oh and finally, the banks then took out a bet that the customer would have to default on the loan again making another cut...

One of many examples of proven corruption within the financial industy, but aye its all cos were greedy cunts.


I clearly overrgeneralised but the people still had a choice in taking out the loans and a lot of people abdicate responsibility for the choices they made during this period of time and then complain about the government and bankers when they actually did contribute. As for the regulator, the less said about that catastrophe the better...

And Jonk I do agree with your point but to me I cannot see how this is going to affect the majority of people. Alot of other industries and services have minimum use requirements too
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Black Shepherd Carnage
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:10 am Reply with quote
Joined: 18 Sep 2011 Posts: 887
All the metallers gettin' hot and bothered about the charges they'll have to pay on the holiday home in Tramore aye?

"The 'low user standing charge' will hit those who use an average of two units or less per day -- in many cases society's most vulnerable."

"Two units (2 kWhs) is the equivalent of a small fridge-freezer on for the entire day, (or) cooking on a small plate for 20 minutes or a cycle on a washing machine."

So there's people in such vulnerable situations that they live in complete darkness but have never sought aid from the government? This won't affect society's "most vulnerable" at all. Here - using 2 units per day costs €23.68 every bi-monthly bill (check the Electric Ireland usage calculator). Add in this:
http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Schemes/HouseholdBenefits/Pages/hb.aspx

and then fuck off to your shitty middle-class "seemed like a good idea at the time" holiday home in Tramore.
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richardanthonyc
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:33 am Reply with quote
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 1045 Location: Longford
But you must be retarded to disagree with Snatchgrabber and Mishima who gave such valid points on the subject

Laughing

Completely agree with you Black Shepherd Carnage, some people just love to hop on any excuse to give out!
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jobrok1
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:56 am Reply with quote
Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1884 Location: www.irish-metal.blogspot.ie
richardanthonyc wrote:
And Jonk I do agree with your point but to me I cannot see how this is going to affect the majority of people. Alot of other industries and services have minimum use requirements too


Give the cunts an inch and I'll bet that before long the standing charge will apply to all households/accounts regardless of how much the consumer uses.

This is just the fuckers testing the waters!
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richardanthonyc
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:11 am Reply with quote
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 1045 Location: Longford
jobrok1 wrote:
richardanthonyc wrote:
And Jonk I do agree with your point but to me I cannot see how this is going to affect the majority of people. Alot of other industries and services have minimum use requirements too


Give the cunts an inch and I'll bet that before long the standing charge will apply to all households/accounts regardless of how much the consumer uses.

This is just the fuckers testing the waters!


That also may well be true... But it's not going to affect the majority of the nation, only those with multiple properties so let those with more take a tiny hit for the rest of us
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mishima
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:50 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 3344 Location: In space, no-one can hear you smeg.
richardanthonyc wrote:
But you must be retarded to disagree with Snatchgrabber and Mishima who gave such valid points on the subject

Laughing

Completely agree with you Black Shepherd Carnage, some people just love to hop on any excuse to give out!


In fairness though, as a vehement defender of the Catholic Church and its crimes, it's fairly obvious that rational thought isn't one of your strong points.
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richardanthonyc
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:53 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 1045 Location: Longford
mishima wrote:
richardanthonyc wrote:
But you must be retarded to disagree with Snatchgrabber and Mishima who gave such valid points on the subject

Laughing

Completely agree with you Black Shepherd Carnage, some people just love to hop on any excuse to give out!


In fairness though, as a vehement defender of the Catholic Church and its crimes, it's fairly obvious that rational thought isn't one of your strong points.


Wait what? I am not Catholic and never have been! Where the hell did you pull that one from? I despise the Catholic church and its disgusting abuse of power that has held ireland back for decades
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Snatchgrabber
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:54 pm Reply with quote
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Hes an altar-boy with Stockholm syndrome
richardanthonyc
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:59 pm Reply with quote
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Snatchgrabber wrote:
Hes an altar-boy with Stockholm syndrome


Ah still unable to answer a simple question? How is this going to affect the common people?
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Snatchgrabber
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:01 pm Reply with quote
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Yep this is pretty embarrassing for me
richardanthonyc
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:03 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 1045 Location: Longford
Doubt that, ya make an eejit out of yourself often enough to not really be affected by it. Plus Trolls don't really get embaressed/offended, they just troll
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ragingbassist
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:49 am Reply with quote
Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 300 Location: Collon, Co. Louth (hey.)
richardanthonyc wrote:
some people just love to hop on any excuse to give out!


I love givin out! What're we givin out about now?

Sorry lad, do ya not think its fuckin obscene bein charged for NOT using somethin?

And as for the multiple property owners, 1) I think you'd be surprised at how few of them there are and 2) they can still probably manage the cost of their low usage penalty.
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Peeandnuts
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:45 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 227
Thing is guys ,how something is spun unfortunatley is a major factor with everything.(Personally within reason think that everything should be judged on the facts as opposed to including the wishy washy element) In such times you'd want to be fairly charming to justify any price increase without a good story behind it .

In reality ,i would guess our power charges are quite reasonable BY COMPARRISON with other countries but naturally any increase no matter how miniscule will be met with opposition.The ESB is a semi-state body also (hence we immediatley associate them with the hated government )

If Eircom brought out a similar charge ,would anyone give a fuck ? If Eircom brought out something similar when they were a state body ,i'm sure the matter would be treated differently.
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Bludgeoning
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:35 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 1480 Location: Chubby Mature Tube
UPC charge customers €7.50 per calendar month who only have broadband connections. "Broadband only charge". Penalizing people trying to cut back on monthly outgoings.. Fucking wankers. No additional cost to them on the operating end, just greed.

Don't see why other utility companies would think any different.
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