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| Snatchgrabber |
 Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:31 pm |
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Crow wrote: Middle class food? Come again?
I know right? And from a northsider and all |
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| Invictus |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:31 pm |
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northside hoop wrote: Not ideological nonsense, more of a cheap jibe for my own amusement.
Yet an acceptable one because 'socialist' analysis is able to paint such insulting and derogatory hues about other people that no other 'ideology' can get away with.
That said, I do actually agree with you that this guy was a thieving cunt and deserves punishment for evading taxes the way he did. This country is built on actions like this chap and it's ridiculous trying to compare his custodial sentence to the likes of rapists and so forth.
6 years is a bit fucking much though. Surely a better way would be to have him continue to work and employ but repay the money he owes monthly. |
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| northside hoop |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:14 pm |
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Crow wrote: Middle class food? Come again?
I only glanced at the headline in the irish times seeing "food importer" and assumed it was some posh gourmet place. If I'd known it was a place in blanch I would have made a cheap gibe about him being a coddle enabler or somesuch. |
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| BoobC |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:48 pm |
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Invictus wrote: Surely a better way would be to have him continue to work and employ but repay the money he owes monthly.
Not much of a deterrent though. |
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| Invictus |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:34 pm |
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BoobC wrote: Invictus wrote: Surely a better way would be to have him continue to work and employ but repay the money he owes monthly.
Not much of a deterrent though.
Agreed. |
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| Padre Pio |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:06 pm |
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Invictus wrote: northside hoop wrote: and sells middle class food to tarquin and iseult
I love how this sort of ideological nonsense is acceptable.
Some people here would have ended up in the gulag in Stalin's USSR for denouncing the country for being too soft on the bourgeoisie.
Calling garlic a "middle class food" may be the most ridiculous thing ever posted on this board, and that's saying something. |
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| Warfare Noise |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:13 pm |
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| Padre Pio |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:37 pm |
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| Astarmain |
| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:19 pm |
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Invictus wrote: northside hoop wrote: Not ideological nonsense, more of a cheap jibe for my own amusement.
Yet an acceptable one because 'socialist' analysis is able to paint such insulting and derogatory hues about other people that no other 'ideology' can get away with.
Darragh, you can be a douche without being a socialist and vice versa. |
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| Disgorging Legion |
| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:02 am |
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| pedro |
| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:47 am |
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| fraud is fraud and 1.6 million of fraud is fraud of the highest order. After all the shit that has gone on with banks bumming society he chose the wrong time to pull off a scam like this. You could look at it another way, compare it...if it was fags or booze people would be up in arms but because it's garlic he's a good guy!?!? Just playing devil's advocate here but the same principle applies. |
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| Crow |
| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:45 am |
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The breakfast roll-etariat like garlic too.
No pastaran! |
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| Padre Pio |
| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:53 am |
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pedro wrote: fraud is fraud and 1.6 million of fraud is fraud of the highest order. After all the shit that has gone on with banks bumming society he chose the wrong time to pull off a scam like this. You could look at it another way, compare it...if it was fags or booze people would be up in arms but because it's garlic he's a good guy!?!? Just playing devil's advocate here but the same principle applies.
No one is saying he's a good guy, just that 6 years in jail seems a bit excessive compared to a lot of sentences handed down. |
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| Caller of the Black |
| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:59 am |
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| They can put him in the kitchen in prison at least, make some nice nosh for the other inmates. |
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| Mongreled |
| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:21 pm |
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from http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0310/begleyp.html
"they family said they could not understand why a sentence of six years was handed down, when Paul had co-operated with the investigation and the company had agreed terms to repay outstanding taxes"
it certainly would appear that this case is being used to send a clear message across the country, it is, for want of a better word "unfortunate" that this chap is being made an example of.
while technically correct in the application of the sentencing I cant help but think that the judge was more interesting in the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law. the judge seems to have deferred any discretion he may have applied to the case in favour of sending a message.
if the letter of the law is to be applied to all situations then there should be far harsher sentences handed down across the country.
this case has sent a message, but it may not be as intended, instead it has highlighted the arbitary nature of sentencing for vicious and serious crimes being totally inappropriate and unproportional to the nature of the crimes and the lasting impact on victims and survivors. |
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