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Zero Squiggles
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:47 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 1260 Location: Where Humans Dwell
Padre Pio wrote:
Nah, to me that sounds like "there's no such thing as bad publicity". Ask Gary Glitter about that. It's just a platitude. To each their own of course.


I don't follow how this relates to what I said. Care to elaborate?
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Padre Pio
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:10 pm Reply with quote
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Basically, to me "it's good to have as many acquaintances as possible" is a pretty meaningless phrase, just as I've always found "there's no such thing as bad publicity" to be meaningless too.

For example, if some obscure footballer racially abused a top black player during an FA Cup tie, this would be publicity for the footballer, it would increase his profile and get him into the international news for the first time, but it would make him a bit of a hate figure and I don't think it would be "good publicity".

Similarly, if you have an acquaintance who is constantly bothering you, who always seeks favours but never gives them, or that you simply don't like, I don't see that having this acquaintance is a good thing.

To be honest, I'm just pursuing a pretty pointless nit-picking semantic argument for some unknown reason... But you asked for clarification and there it is!
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Snatchgrabber
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:29 pm Reply with quote
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Makes perfect sense to me anyway
Zero Squiggles
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:26 pm Reply with quote
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Padre Pio wrote:
Basically, to me "it's good to have as many acquaintances as possible" is a pretty meaningless phrase, just as I've always found "there's no such thing as bad publicity" to be meaningless too.


We certainly percieve the phrase "it's good to have as many acquaintances as possible" in a very different way.

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For example, if some obscure footballer racially abused a top black player during an FA Cup tie, this would be publicity for the footballer, it would increase his profile and get him into the international news for the first time, but it would make him a bit of a hate figure and I don't think it would be "good publicity".


Makes complete sense to me. Personally, I discovered my meaning for existing is to keep improving myself. I have my main passions. One of them is to improve my lifestyle which I have researched into and continue to do so. An aspect of that is social skills, to which I very much lacked a few years ago. At some point, I came across the subject of 'networking'.
I never really considered the word 'publicity' but now when I think about it. The more I network, the increase in publicity I will create for myself. Bad publicity is something I'd want to avoid at all costs.

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Similarly, if you have an acquaintance who is constantly bothering you, who always seeks favours but never gives them, or that you simply don't like, I don't see that having this acquaintance is a good thing.


There is a limit. If an acquaintance constantly bothers me, it depends on the situation. I have no problem in calling them on their shit and/or cutting all comminication with them. That doesn't seem to happen very often.

I'll demonstrate an example of an advantage of networking.

Lets say Joe is unemployed with a degree and he has a few friends. He is looking for work but to no avail. His friends are very much aware of this and would love to help him if they could. But it would appear they can't. Joe doesn't network very much.

Now imagine someone called Dave in the same situation except that he often networks. He will tell his acquaintances or maybe random people in a bar that he's looking for specific work. One of his acquaintances or some random guy could pave a direction for him therefore potentially changing his life.

Some acquaintances I would establish deeper rapport and connection with. Overtime this can lead to a closer friendship.

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To be honest, I'm just pursuing a pretty pointless nit-picking semantic argument for some unknown reason... But you asked for clarification and there it is!


Well personally I like to nit-pick. I like to question everything. Razz
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Padre Pio
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:57 pm Reply with quote
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Don't worry, I am not against the idea of having acquaintances. Indeed, while it may lead me to losing a few of my CULT POINTS, I even think it's acceptable to have friends, a wife, etc. Wink

I just thought your statement was a bit TOO black and white.

As for "networking", I think the word is sullied by its association with yuppy types, or people who seem to go to events, do things, and talk to people for the sole purpose of getting ahead. And sadly there are some people like this.

But looking at the word/concept the way you do is obviously a positive thing. In whatever walk of life - be it trying to get a job or simply find first hand information about metal bars and shops in a foreign city - it's useful to have a network of friends and friends of friends, etc.

For me, though, I prefer to let these things develop organically. I would never, for example, join a golf club out of a sense of duty as a non-golfer, just because I thought I might meet some useful people.
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Bane
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:02 pm Reply with quote
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Having a wife is sooooo gay.
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PatrickReborn
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:52 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 2113 Location: Castlebar/Galway
How did everyone get on with exams/results?

I came out with a 65% overall so I was happy. Got 61% in my Final Year dissertation only to be emailed a few days later saying that there was a mix up and I actually scored 66% - made no real difference anyways... only needed 60%+ to get my Masters.
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kunt 4 life
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:50 pm Reply with quote
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Well done, mate. Cool
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Poley_Sorrowfall
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:43 am Reply with quote
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Congrats! Its a great feeling to be finished! Whats it in?

Graduating tomorrow morning with a Masters in Physics, its been a long 4 years lol.
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Squigz
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:17 am Reply with quote
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'Networking' is only of value if you're already in some sort of 'network'. I have done a number of internships over the past while, and have also worked in bars to float myself (and also spent a short time on the dole). During the internships I met a number of interesting people, some of whom I am still in some sort of contact with, and who have kept me in a loop as regards employment. This, for want of a better word, is networking.

Whilst working in bars, sure I've met interesting people too, some of whom have had similar careers as to one that I would ultimately like to get into. To them though, I'm the lad pulling the pints who may have some use in their workplace, but probably will never be thought of outside of that realm.They know plenty of other people like me, who they will think of ten times over, before they think of me, cause I'm not actually in their 'network'. 'Networking' is a misconception that people like my Ma latch on to as being important cause they read about it in the paper. Its a buzzword that means approximately fuck all in my opinion. Its not a new phenomena, its just a different name for making professional relationships through your job. If you're not in that job, you can't make these connections. That's the way I see it.

I've rambled and I probably make no sense, but I've just worked a 12 hour shift networking beer from a tap to a glass, so forgive me.
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Shunyata
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:30 am Reply with quote
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It's just a nicer word for opportunistic nepotism.
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Byron
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:23 am Reply with quote
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PatrickReborn wrote:
How did everyone get on with exams/results?

I came out with a 65% overall so I was happy. Got 61% in my Final Year dissertation only to be emailed a few days later saying that there was a mix up and I actually scored 66% - made no real difference anyways... only needed 60%+ to get my Masters.


Got first class honours and should be starting a PhD in October.
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Hauk
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:47 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 641 Location: Na Sceiri, gContae Fhiongail.
Poley_Sorrowfall wrote:
Congrats! Its a great feeling to be finished! Whats it in?

Graduating tomorrow morning with a Masters in Physics, its been a long 4 years lol.


Congratulations! Must have been some work. I would love a Masters in Physics. Sad
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Chooch
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:00 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 03 Apr 2012 Posts: 206 Location: Maigh Eo
After 2 years I acquired me higher cert in Music Tech and decided to do the add-on year for the degree for shits and giggles. As it turns out I abso-fucking-lutely despise business management so gave up after a few months. Overall, wasnt too impressed with it, has put me off third level education for a while but will probably get back into it at some point.

Not very rewarding when, after 2.5 years, the only worthwhile experienced gained is how to survive on 8 quid a week Confused Laughing
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thunderdrummer
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:13 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Posts: 220
I'm going into my final year of biomedical engineering in DCU with 76% from this year so I am quite happy. Does anyone have any advice on picking final year projects? From what I have been told, succeeding in it is getting something you are really interested in ans also getting a lecturer who will actually help you.
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