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04325613
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:51 pm Reply with quote
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still haven't found this anywhere unfortunately
belus and fallen were brilliant

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Bottle of Tonic
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:10 pm Reply with quote
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Only picked this up the other day and really enjoying it. I know this is Burzum we are talking about and its hard not to, but if I think if you go into it with expectations you will probably be disappointed. Some people still won't be able to separate new from early 90's Burzum and others won't be able to listen to this without comparing it to the first time they heard Belus.

Reading the various criticisms the past few months while knowing I enjoy the new direction of Burzum has probably helped in that I came to listen to it with no expectations whatsoever and not knowing what to expect.
And I really like it for what it is. The points made about it being slow to midpaced, long, dry, repetitive, minimalist etc don't have to be criticisms unless you are looking for/expecting something else.

It almost sounds effortless bordering on lazy in many ways. But the simple riffs and melodies are class and the album relies almost totally on mood. An interesting and daring album!
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Tuna_Fish_Metal
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:59 pm Reply with quote
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04325613 wrote:
still haven't found this anywhere unfortunately
belus and fallen were brilliant

more shitehawk posts from tunafish...



Why don't ya try http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&target=BYE010CDS or ITTV, then perhaps you could make a post about the album instead of ripping on my account of the works, my opinion on Umskiptar is more in tune than most and your inability to even get a copy makes you more incompetent than most,at best .
wayne040576
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:01 pm Reply with quote
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It's not a great one.
And I had to laugh when I read this review:

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The clumsy spoken word intro “Blóđstokkinn” immediately illustrates what is wrong with Vikernes and everything he stands for. Sure, it’s easy enough to copy the Old-Norse language version of the Völuspá from some website and it will certainly look fancy and perhaps somewhat intellectual. To deliver it with credibility is a different matter altogether. Next to the very “loose” (non-existent) timing and the silly Saruman-impersonation voice, it quickly becomes blaringly apparent that Vikernes has no clue how to correctly pronounce Old-Norse. Many advanced Scandinavian language students will cringe when hearing Vikernes fake his way through this whole record in “Old-Norse”. Lesson learned: if you have no clue how to do something, learn how to do it properly or don’t do it at all.


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When the album, after more than an hour, finally ends with Vikernes blowing a cow horn for five minutes while doing an impression of an Old-Norse down syndrome patient suffering from laryngitis, I’m grateful that I didn’t spend any money on this promo.
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Tuna_Fish_Metal
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:51 am Reply with quote
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wayne040576 wrote:
It's not a great one.
And I had to laugh when I read this review:

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The clumsy spoken word intro “Blóđstokkinn” immediately illustrates what is wrong with Vikernes and everything he stands for. Sure, it’s easy enough to copy the Old-Norse language version of the Völuspá from some website and it will certainly look fancy and perhaps somewhat intellectual. To deliver it with credibility is a different matter altogether. Next to the very “loose” (non-existent) timing and the silly Saruman-impersonation voice, it quickly becomes blaringly apparent that Vikernes has no clue how to correctly pronounce Old-Norse. Many advanced Scandinavian language students will cringe when hearing Vikernes fake his way through this whole record in “Old-Norse”. Lesson learned: if you have no clue how to do something, learn how to do it properly or don’t do it at all.


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When the album, after more than an hour, finally ends with Vikernes blowing a cow horn for five minutes while doing an impression of an Old-Norse down syndrome patient suffering from laryngitis, I’m grateful that I didn’t spend any money on this promo.



A fine example of haters who accuse others of being haters, a true example also of left wing extremest's attacking the wrong target but its fair to say its not great IUO.

I had to laugh too as I pictured fat nerd, keyboard warriors eating tons of shit and thinking I have you now Varg, like the hand picked losers they are.
Tuna_Fish_Metal
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:08 am Reply with quote
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On reflection the 2nd comment has to be LOL.....
Rctl Dsmbwllmnt
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:43 pm Reply with quote
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Varg is really pushing the boundaries of low quality these days. It's a shite album no matter how you try to justify it.
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wayne040576
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:04 pm Reply with quote
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Tuna_Fish_Metal wrote:
wayne040576 wrote:
It's not a great one.
And I had to laugh when I read this review:

Quote:
The clumsy spoken word intro “Blóđstokkinn” immediately illustrates what is wrong with Vikernes and everything he stands for. Sure, it’s easy enough to copy the Old-Norse language version of the Völuspá from some website and it will certainly look fancy and perhaps somewhat intellectual. To deliver it with credibility is a different matter altogether. Next to the very “loose” (non-existent) timing and the silly Saruman-impersonation voice, it quickly becomes blaringly apparent that Vikernes has no clue how to correctly pronounce Old-Norse. Many advanced Scandinavian language students will cringe when hearing Vikernes fake his way through this whole record in “Old-Norse”. Lesson learned: if you have no clue how to do something, learn how to do it properly or don’t do it at all.



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Quote:
When the album, after more than an hour, finally ends with Vikernes blowing a cow horn for five minutes while doing an impression of an Old-Norse down syndrome patient suffering from laryngitis, I’m grateful that I didn’t spend any money on this promo.



A fine example of haters who accuse others of being haters, a true example also of left wing extremest's attacking the wrong target but its fair to say its not great IUO.

I had to laugh too as I pictured fat nerd, keyboard warriors eating tons of shit and thinking I have you now Varg, like the hand picked losers they are.


In fairness to the reviewer I don't think it was an attack on Varg's ideals as such, he was disappointed by the album. He did end the review with
"Now I’m going to listen to “Hvis lyset tar oss” to get this crap out of my head."

He has a point about the ancient Norse thing though. If Varg really doesn't know much about it, he should probably avoid writing lyrics around it. I feel the same every time I hear a US band pronounce the word Samhain.

To me, I think maybe he needs to take a rest for a couple of years. I thought the first 2 albums he released after getting out were great. I honestly didn't think he had any more good albums in him after so long.
This one just isn't doing it for me though.
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Helvte
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:22 pm Reply with quote
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Lesson learned: if you have no clue how to do something, learn how to do it properly or don’t do it at all.


Never stopped me. Now I Drive the school bus
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Tuna_Fish_Metal
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:25 am Reply with quote
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wayne040576 wrote:
Tuna_Fish_Metal wrote:
wayne040576 wrote:
It's not a great one.
And I had to laugh when I read this review:

Quote:
The clumsy spoken word intro “Blóđstokkinn” immediately illustrates what is wrong with Vikernes and everything he stands for. Sure, it’s easy enough to copy the Old-Norse language version of the Völuspá from some website and it will certainly look fancy and perhaps somewhat intellectual. To deliver it with credibility is a different matter altogether. Next to the very “loose” (non-existent) timing and the silly Saruman-impersonation voice, it quickly becomes blaringly apparent that Vikernes has no clue how to correctly pronounce Old-Norse. Many advanced Scandinavian language students will cringe when hearing Vikernes fake his way through this whole record in “Old-Norse”. Lesson learned: if you have no clue how to do something, learn how to do it properly or don’t do it at all.



and

Quote:
When the album, after more than an hour, finally ends with Vikernes blowing a cow horn for five minutes while doing an impression of an Old-Norse down syndrome patient suffering from laryngitis, I’m grateful that I didn’t spend any money on this promo.



A fine example of haters who accuse others of being haters, a true example also of left wing extremest's attacking the wrong target but its fair to say its not great IUO.

I had to laugh too as I pictured fat nerd, keyboard warriors eating tons of shit and thinking I have you now Varg, like the hand picked losers they are.


In fairness to the reviewer I don't think it was an attack on Varg's ideals as such, he was disappointed by the album. He did end the review with
"Now I’m going to listen to “Hvis lyset tar oss” to get this crap out of my head."

He has a point about the ancient Norse thing though. If Varg really doesn't know much about it, he should probably avoid writing lyrics around it. I feel the same every time I hear a US band pronounce the word Samhain.

To me, I think maybe he needs to take a rest for a couple of years. I thought the first 2 albums he released after getting out were great. I honestly didn't think he had any more good albums in him after so long.
This one just isn't doing it for me though.


Regarding the reviewer, saying "Now I’m going to listen to “Hvis lyset tar oss” to get this crap out of my head." it is a cop out, any cunt can say that, that ain't a review. Who in Norge BM history has the right to express his norge roots? Varg has paid the price for murder and considering the theme of BM, a guy that spent that much time in prison and aloof from the general BM of the day goes and creates Belus and Fallen two of the best BM albums of the present day and maybe of all time. How can some cunt say he's bad or wrong?
Varg put his whole life into it, like him or hate him he's making good music. See my post where I just quote another on Vargs latest work.
Tuna_Fish_Metal
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:43 am Reply with quote
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These are Nagel's words.

Tuna_Fish_Metal wrote:
"The Varg is a guy that I admire. Even if thee criticize by your crazy ideologies, nobody can deny that he is good at what he does: MUSIC. The proof is new album Umpkistar, that is magical!
A Viking surviving in the globalization and the EXTREME LIBERAL CAPITALISM! For more that the people say, he does what I always wanted: To live his life the way he wants! Whenever I need ENERGY, INSPIRATION and Animo, count on these guys: Varg, Ted Skellun and Gylve Nagel, you are the heroes of the music!"

That Fallschirmjäger is worth a few bob, I guess the hat says more about the man than the music, perhaps he likes parachuting in pricy WW11 gear, and is not really broke as suggested somewhere here.
Worthless Recluse
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:16 pm Reply with quote
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wayne040576 wrote:

In fairness to the reviewer I don't think it was an attack on Varg's ideals as such


Yeah, it's one thing to pick apart the music, but being critical of the man's ideals is just unacceptable. The album might be weak but as a human being he's certainly beyond reproach.
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Eoin McLove
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:47 pm Reply with quote
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04325613
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:27 pm Reply with quote
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Worthless Recluse wrote:
Tuna_Fish_Metal wrote:
Reading the book adds weight to the lyrical content, not having a word of english on it has its drawbacks but its a very simple album drawing the listener towards the nature of Burzum which really is a good thing in this world of self destruction, waste and greed. We need to remember the old ways if we are to create a sustainable future, people have this guy all wrong in my eyes, the extreme left are more of a problem than people think as they are more and more obsessed with all the wrong things.


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Taranis wrote:
I got this almost three weeks ago, and I must say that it is a bit on the ropey side. It never really gets going, there is very little to hook the listener and it just seems slapped together. Perhaps he is running out of the ideas that he came up with in prison? I can't see myself listening to it all that much in the future after I give it a few more chances this month.

Same as. Just finished listening to this, ill give it another chance before its labeled shite. A complete absence of the same hypnotic burzum feel of the other two and seems like a ball of ideas thrown together with too much of his norse droning. I know there was divided opinions on fallen but I think most will agree that its totally unfocused or just total shite, looks like he might be running out of steam afterall.
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Pestaa
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:38 am Reply with quote
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i think this could maybe sum it up for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJYkJlKHlNk
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