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| Scarface |
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ah i've seen it working in ireland though. know a few people who've had it installed for years. my boss on placement pretty much recommended it to every client that came in too. does the entire domestic hot water in the summer and tops it up a bit in the winter.
fuck it, if channel 5 wont commission it, dave will. "teams, you have 4 hours to create geothermal energy using this rusty swingball set and a broken furby." |
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| colmtesticles |
| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:36 pm |
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suprised at that...
its not pvs though is it. its just radiator working in reverse |
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| Scarface |
| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:48 pm |
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| solar panels? aye, well there's flat plate ones, which are essentially that, and evacuated tube collectors, which are way more efficient and used to be too expensive for domestic use, but the price has dropped a lot. the water gets piped through a tube, which itself is contained in another glass tube with a vacuum in between, the outer one being coated with some form of spiders webs and magic that inhibits the solar radiation escaping back out again. nothing electrical involved at that end at all. i have been reliably informed that the water would burn the hole off ye sometimes. |
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| bossisdead |
| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:57 am |
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Scarface wrote: bossisdead wrote: Going green should be promoted and practised by everyone in whatever way they can.There's so much about the process that pisses me off though.Like why there is technology readily available for kids in africa to have their $100 laptops powered by solar energy,when I'm sitting here with mine plugged into the wall. It's good that governments are starting out technology in these deprived countries on the right foot, but where is our investment? I hear if you want to build a new house now you have to install a certain percentage of renewable energy resources, thats great, but for all the homes already built,compared to how many are currently in production, what difference is this really going to make,even 10 years from now?
putting your massive assumption that photovoltaics are economically viable for micro-generation aside for the moment, in the UK at least, there has been plenty of investment. i'm fairly sure there are still grants available for microgeneration, and there's been an exemption on stamp duty for zero carbon homes (or what the government defines as zero carbon) up until 2012.
the main change is the energy performance certificates, which were adopted last year, rating your home A-G in terms of carbon emissions and efficiency. you're legally required to have one if you want to sell or let a building. there is no legal requirement for renewables at the moment, it only has to meet the recently upgraded building regs, but renewables would be required in order to get an A rated home (alongside air-tightness and super-insulation). The idea is that better rated homes will sell for much more because they will be cheaper to run in the long-term, while with a crap house the estate agent will be more likely to deduct the cost of improving the rating from the value.
so nah-nah-nah-nah-nah
I don't think there was any massive assumptions in what I said,I was asking questions which you circuitously answered,thanks all the same.  |
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| Scarface |
| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:19 am |
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well it just read like you'd assumed photovoltaics would work the same in africa as they would here. which they wouldn't as you'd need a much larger array to get the same output. cause the weather's shite here. though i may be a bit irritable as im up to my neck in a dissertation on sustainable development in ireland.
anyway, "going green" goes way beyond bunging a few accessories on your roof. build quality and development patterns are far more important. the one-off housing ban in the north kindof pointed things in the right direction, but we'll have to wait a few years to see what fresh hell the muck savage developers can come up with. cunts like that developer noel o'gara, who i'd happily see thrown into a biomass boiler..
o'gara, incidentally, wrote a book on the "real" yorkshire ripper, claiming there was a cover-up by the yorkshire police and that the real ripper was never caught. see, i knew there was a link somewhere. he's also a complete cunt who stood for election in the republic on the grounds that he'd set about abolishing the irish planning system. |
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| bossisdead |
| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:57 am |
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| MULLAN Extraordinaire |
| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:47 pm |
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| MULLAN Extraordinaire |
| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:36 pm |
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I watched the full Zeitgeist film last night. Very informative and thought provoking. A lot of it makes sense but there are a few arguments that I'd still be a little sceptical about.
This is 1hr 50mins but it will keep you interested for the duration. Investigate people, INVESTIGATE!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo |
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| KillerVoodoo |
| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:32 pm |
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Is America not in control already? I mean they do as they please. I don't hate America or Americans but is their country not the dominant power of the globe at this stage?
Sorry if this has been mentioned already but not reading through pages lol. |
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| MULLAN Extraordinaire |
| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:26 am |
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KillerVoodoo wrote: I don't hate America or Americans.
You should. |
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| Meh Tal |
| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:25 pm |
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MULLAN Extraordinaire wrote: KillerVoodoo wrote: I don't hate America or Americans.
You should.
Especially the Leaders! |
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| KillerVoodoo |
| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:58 am |
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Meh Tal wrote: MULLAN Extraordinaire wrote: KillerVoodoo wrote: I don't hate America or Americans.
You should.
Especially the Leaders!
Tell me why I should hate the current leader? |
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| Pauricgallagher |
| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:06 am |
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| KillerVoodoo |
| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:32 am |
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Pauricgallagher wrote: ...too easy...
Yeah? |
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| Dj-Nemesis |
| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:18 am |
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KillerVoodoo wrote: Pauricgallagher wrote: ...too easy...
Yeah?
 Much to easy! |
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