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| kunt 4 life |
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| raped by rednecks |
| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:34 pm |
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| if ya liked zeitgeist the movie,check out the obama deception,all i can say if fucking hell,if any of the stuff on it is true.....................we are well and truely fucked. |
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| Col |
| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:18 pm |
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raped by rednecks wrote: if ya liked zeitgeist the movie,check out the obama deception,all i can say if fucking hell,if any of the stuff on it is true.....................we are well and truely fucked.
I did'nt, and I'm sure anyone that did, did'nt either.
But I am sure that the Obama thing is just more of the same.
It turns out Obama is related to George Bush too. But so what, he's like a third cousin or something. I have third cousins and I dont know anything about them. Aristocracies are an established norm in human society from the highest echelons to the lowest barriers.
The bottom line is these people are rich, but they are still just people. They get up in the morning roll their eyes to heaven,take a shit and are pissed off that they are going to die someday, just like everyone else. They are no more or less remarkable than you or I, whatever their background. Except that some people make them so. They are just doing a job that is more available to them than it is to you or I. That does'nt necessarily mean that they are removed from empathesising with you as another human being.
More importantly the guy sitting in his basement in Wisconsin or whatever blowing up these facts in order to make the mediocre, ineffectual nature of his life more relevant to current events is the problem. He wants people who have real potential to feel as scared and useless he does.
The people who join the dots to make these conspiracies have nothing better to do folks.
The dots are there for sure, I am in no way denying that. But they dont necessarily join in that way, the only real threat to your freedom is the basement loon.
Such a person could put their obvious intelligence to better use working on the ACTUAL, definable, tangible and solvable problems in the world.
Of which I am sure that you are all well aware.
Yeah, George Bushes granddaddy started the federal reserve. Fuck it! someone was going to. Every three seconds a child starves to death in Africa. |
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| Windy Shepard Henderson |
| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:04 am |
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I knew the fact that Daid Icke was included in that clip would raise a few eyebrows. The man will attach himself to any conspiricy theory going and makes a nice few quid doing it, but this is not his theory. He is just attaching himself to sell another few books. Alex Jones however does make some interesting points but I would of course take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
The clip I posted was merely just an advert for a website. I thought it would be pretty obvious why certain tv shows were included. The Royle family show was there convey the unthinking majority, looking at trash tv as apposed to taking an interest in important world events. V for Vendetta was there due to the parrallels between its storey and reality. The repeating of the New World Order was important to show that it is being talked about by the media and politicians. I'm not saying the clip is without it's flaws but it's interesting.
This is not exactly a new idea. Ever since the declaration of independance many presidents have stated that America will never be free as long the money is controlled by a federal banking system. This has nothing to do with the gold standard which is a distant memory.
I really can't see why alot of this isn't plausible. We are already part of europe and using a common currency. Now that we have a recession here we will all be scared into becoming ever more a part of Europe as nobody wants to be poor. Its not as if our recession is independant of the rest of the world.
I really don't buy the whole Obama thing either. I can't see how the man could possibly make a difference, I really don't think his policies are so different either. Change is here.....bollox! What is this change we are hearing so much about. I'm sure most people have come to the conclusion that George Bush was an idiotic puppet to the men with the money so why would this change with Obama. Why would the men controlling the money suddenly stop having power. After 8 years of Bush and his far right views, people had enough and were starting to finally stand up to their leaders then all of a sudden Obama comes in and it was like the illusive second coming of christ! Now everyones crying with joy whenever the man opens his mouth. It seems the wool has been pulled over the eyes of the majority once again. Its even worked out so well that most people who have a bad word to say about him are demonized as racists. |
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| Col |
| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:20 am |
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I totally agree with you on the Obama thing. Though I do think he is a great politician(my personal view) he is not the messiah! In fact, there is NO messiah, but sure thats another debate.
Its never good to get too googleyeyed about any politician or anyone! for that matter. He is definitely a capable dude. But ultimately he is just doing a job.
I just hate conspiracy theories. They usually negate the inherent greatness of the human race. Especially the "Zeitgeist", thing, we are just not that conquerable.
The human race is the most remarkable thing that has ever occured on Earth. |
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| Jonestown Revue |
| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:42 am |
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Windy Shepard Henderson wrote:
This is not exactly a new idea. Ever since the declaration of independance many presidents have stated that America will never be free as long the money is controlled by a federal banking system. This has nothing to do with the gold standard which is a distant memory.
I really can't see why alot of this isn't plausible. We are already part of europe and using a common currency. Now that we have a recession here we will all be scared into becoming ever more a part of Europe as nobody wants to be poor. Its not as if our recession is independant of the rest of the world. .
So would you suggest that Ireland reduces the european influence and funding that it recieves? Would that not lead to more people becoming unemployed and more people becoming poor? All those new motorways and tollbridges and infrastructure projects, would they have happened if Ireland had not been a member of the EU given the fact that the EU put up 55bllion euros more than the Irish government for the funding of it. Also Ireland is due to receive another 750 billion euro from 2007-2013 in EU funding.
Surely economically EU membership has been on the whole beneficial to Ireland. I know that people will pick apart what I have said because clearly there will be downsides to over-reliance on EU funding and foreign investment. But sure.
I know that the "gold standard" is no longer a term used, but countries and organisations like the IMF still hold large gold reserves. |
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| pk1825 |
| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:32 pm |
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The Obama Deception is good alright, although it just scratches the surface. Antony C. Sutton is recommended, really top quality material there.
Anyone that 'doesn't believe in' or hates conspiracy theories just hasn't looked into the right stuff. "The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve" is a fantastic book too, pretty scary stuff when you get into though. David Icke is actually one of the best researchers into this material if you forget the lizard bit haha, just read/listen to him (among many others) rip into Rothschild, Kissinger, etc. It's more a Zionist agenda than anything I guess, a whole other discussion there though! What did people who watched Occupation 101 think of it on the subject?
Quote: A new time has come, a new time is here
the one from the pit has risen and soon he'll make us fear!
This is the time yeah, this is the time, now listen to this song
I'm gonna tell You a little story foretold by the prophet John
It started after the war when Israel got their land
It was the new beginning for today's modern man
Foretold two thousand years ago, now we know it's real
They've returned to their land on Silverbirds with wings of steel
The year is 1989 the news shocked us today
the Berlin Wall has fallen as many Germans prayed
Revolution in the Eastern block we can't believe our eyes
It's not the usual situation of the average media lies
True Revelation that comes to every nation
True Revelation that comes to every nation
The future that is coming up holds new hope for our world
All will say 'peace now' and weeping won't be heard
Then a young man comes out of Egypt, he'll unite the Middle-East
A fair politician - our new holy priest
The world will be amazed 'what an incredible man!'
He'll confirm the alliance, all religions will shake hands
There will be one economy and we will all be free
No more credit cards - that he can guarantee
The system that is coming up will really end this hell
A mark on hand or forehead or you can't buy or sell
True Revelation that comes to every nation
A new Manifestation the chosen aggravation
This is the future that you look into and there is nothing that you can do
His next seven years will really be something else y'know
People will be stunned and say "way to go!"
Now all is good and everything is fine, at last we will have some peace of mind
Relax and take it easy in your seats and count in the number of the Beast
True Revelation that comes to every nation
It'll shake the foundation, in fact the whole Creation
Hear me now, all people, this is what I say:
if your heart loves the Lord than you will be ok
In this time of knowledge and love for our world,
for Mother Earth we all fight, our voices can be heard
The World will be a better place, East and West shaking hands
In front of a worldwide government we all have to stand
Soon we'll have a fair world and things look better for you
Then along comes the one - you know who
True Revelation the Final Tribulation
True Revelation Gods Manifestation |
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| syn13 |
| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:49 pm |
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watched a good doc recently 'end game, blue print to worl domination'
I think was the name, seen a good few over the years. my wife has plenty of books on the subject.
according to david icke the world is run by Reptilian humanoids
its wankers like him that make the subject a Big joke.
and he also played for sunderland and thought he was jesus for a while |
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| Scarface |
| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:31 pm |
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| it was coventry city, he was a goalkeeper for a while. i imagine he got on the end of an italian's cross and plans to spend the next 2000 years trying to sell his books off the back of it. |
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| Belenus |
| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:42 am |
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regarding the obama deception,
if the bilderberg group is the omniscient power that really runs the world, how is it the two moles inside its ranks were never rousted. Also, if Alex Jones is as important as he likes to make us, the CIA could easily kill him and make it look like a death by natural causes. Is it that Alex jones is in fact a CIA disinformation operative, whose mission is to obscure the real truth. the plot thickens.
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| Nemtheanga |
| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:50 pm |
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one world government
one world bank. to follow on from this orchestrated recession
no more physical money
all your money/medical/criminal/passport records on one id card
step outside of society - your card will be frozen
higher sentences for drug offences. in prison will be offered reduced sentences to serve in the "one world army"
orwell is masturbating in his grave
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| Flem |
| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:57 pm |
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Or even something like Logans Run.
Michael York - dreamboat |
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| brianwilliams82 |
| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:22 pm |
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I don't really know about all this stuff. Is some of it not just future shock? I mean, imagine my grandfather 100 years ago hearing that, 100 years later, his grandson works for a subsidiary of a German media company, dealing (in English) with Germans nearly every day? This would be incomprehensible to him.
As for the 'connect the dots' stuff, it reminds me of the episode of Star Trek: Voyager, where Seven of Nine absorbs too much information while regenerating, her brain can't handle it, and she subconsciously constructs ever-more elaborate conspiracy theories to try and make sense of it.
While I commend anyone for trying to increase their own personal knowledge, I don't think there's a lot of point in fretting over this. You and I still have to get up tomorrow morning, go to work/school and earn our keep. We'll likely still have to do this, with one World Government or none. |
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| Windy Shepard Henderson |
| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:06 pm |
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| Windy Shepard Henderson |
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Quote: While I commend anyone for trying to increase their own personal knowledge, I don't think there's a lot of point in fretting over this. You and I still have to get up tomorrow morning, go to work/school and earn our keep. We'll likely still have to do this, with one World Government or none.
Life will go on but I don't think we should have to just lie down and accept every change that is brought our way. These things don't happen over night but bit by bit we are having our freedom taken away. Whether or not the common man can make make a difference remains to be seen. Id like to think there's a bit of fight in us yet.
Quote: So would you suggest that Ireland reduces the european influence and funding that it recieves? Would that not lead to more people becoming unemployed and more people becoming poor?
Yes to both questions, but in fairness it's just not going to happen. As someone already said, this is an orchestrated recession, just like all the others and it will be used as a way to control people and an excuse to make major changes. Its a matter of whether we should stand up to this kind of bully tactics. People are not going to be willing to reduce their standard of living. After being a rich country for the past 15 years or so it is a big shock to peoples system having a recession. Im out of a job because of it so Im certainly not happy!
Quote: I just hate conspiracy theories. They usually negate the inherent greatness of the human race. Especially the "Zeitgeist", thing, we are just not that conquerable.
I have to say, i disagree with alot of what you said. It's wrong to dismiss something on the base that its a conspiracy theory. There may be alot of bullshit out there but it's case of keeping an open mind. Many great ideas have started as theories which people ignored/laughed at etc.
I find it hard to share your positive attitude on the human race. The destructive side of the human race is very hard to ignore. Sure a lot of great things have been accomplished but its not like we have proven ourself to be trustworthy. We should question everything and not just think a politician is a man merely doing a job. He is meant to be a voice for the people. Also I think Zeitgeist is a great documentary that should be seen by everyone. |
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