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lore leech
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:29 am Reply with quote
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I was just thinking the other day that we no longer really have proper metal anthems. Back in the 80's and 90's you had so may classic tracks like `Walk´, ´One´, the old dio, Priest and Maiden. I just just wondering what songs people think will really stand out from this decade as true metal classics.
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KillerVoodoo
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:17 am Reply with quote
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This should be a good one.
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dogday
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:40 am Reply with quote
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Imo what makes something an anthem is some type of wide-spread knowledge and acceptance of a song - hopefully a good one.

Metal these days is too broad, downbeat (a good thing imo), underground and divided for any substantial number of people to 'get behind' one song. Also, unlike the 80's how many bands write or try to write anthemic songs but aren't some embarrassing power metal. I wouldn't call 'One' an anthem btw and saying that, don't be fooled; anthems are written to be anthems.
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Eoin McLove
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:12 pm Reply with quote
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Merciful hour... What is with all these fucking shit list threads lately. Snooze.
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Bludgeoning
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:16 pm Reply with quote
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DYING FETUS: Praise the Lord (Opium of the masses)
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Padre Pio
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:22 pm Reply with quote
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Bludgeoning wrote:
DYING FETUS: Praise the Lord (Opium of the masses)


Yeah, that's really a track that will get metal crowds laughing, drinking and headbanging in unison 20 years in the future.

Unless any metal band gets as huge as the bands of the 80s then we won't get any anthems.
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Warfare Noise
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:22 pm Reply with quote
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Eoin McLove wrote:
Merciful hour... What is with all these fucking shit list threads lately. Snooze.


Which do you think have been the worst?
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The Fires of Hell
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:27 pm Reply with quote
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Would it be fair to call that Soil song an anthem? It certainly got a bit of playing around the place.
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Era VulgaChris
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:31 pm Reply with quote
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That track about, y'know, the whales and that off that Mastodon album... about the whales. Or that Gojira song... y'know the one, about the whales.
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Eoin McLove
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:33 pm Reply with quote
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Warfare Noise wrote:
Eoin McLove wrote:
Merciful hour... What is with all these fucking shit list threads lately. Snooze.


Which do you think have been the worst?


Hang on Wes, I'll start a thread about it.
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Padre Pio
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:35 pm Reply with quote
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Era VulgaChris wrote:
That track about, y'know, the whales and that off that Mastodon album... about the whales. Or that Gojira song... y'know the one, about the whales.


Nah. It needs to be stuff that basically everyone has heard, from your "dipping the foot in the sea of heavy metal" to the "overlord king of the elitist legions".

For my part I've never heard either Mastodon or Gojira much less consider any of their songs anthems.

On the other hand, while I don't like "Walk" I can certainly see agree that it's an anthem. A can-crushed-onto-forehead anthem, maybe, but an anthem nonetheless. Only joking. Maybe.
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Era VulgaChris
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:43 pm Reply with quote
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If you've never heard either Mastodon or Gojira, two of the biggest metal bands to arrive in recent years... which is what the topic is about, then somewhere you'd have to admit that you're perhaps excluding yourself, purposely, from being able to judge what would be a modern metal anthem by not listening to the "big" modern metal bands. Those two kind of represent the last acceptable cross-over point between "underground and good" and "mainstream and shit" that exists today.

What about Andrew W.K.? I seem to remember CT being quite a fan...
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Padre Pio
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:50 pm Reply with quote
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Era VulgaChris wrote:
If you've never heard either Mastodon or Gojira, two of the biggest metal bands to arrive in recent years... which is what the topic is about, then somewhere you'd have to admit that you're perhaps excluding yourself, purposely, from being able to judge what would be a modern metal anthem by not listening to the "big" modern metal bands. Those two kind of represent the last acceptable cross-over point between "underground and good" and "mainstream and shit" that exists today.

What about Andrew W.K.? I seem to remember CT being quite a fan...


How big are they really though? Compared to Iron Maiden, Pantera, Metallica, the type of anthemic bands referenced in the first post. They are tiny in comparison, closer to Ride for Revenge in profile.

And yes, I have deliberately excluded myself from them as I don't think I'd like them. There is a load of stuff out there that I do like and that I haven't heard yet but think or even know I like, so why waste my time?

But anyway, they haven't become so massive that I cannot avoid them, meaning that I doubt they've produced anthems that will have the affect on a pub full of drunken metalheads in 25 years time that "The Trooper" does now.
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Dark Stranger
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:51 pm Reply with quote
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Andrew WK's debut album was a fucking belter. Love it to bits and Party Hard is an anthem.

They'd have to be more commercial than anything by Gojira or Mastodon though Chris. Well, I imagine anyway, haven't heard them but kinda know what they sound like.

You want singlong stuff like that Halo song by Soil CT's on about.
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northside hoop
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:53 pm Reply with quote
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Era VulgaChris wrote:
If you've never heard either Mastodon or Gojira, two of the biggest metal bands to arrive in recent years... which is what the topic is about, then somewhere you'd have to admit that you're perhaps excluding yourself, purposely, from being able to judge what would be a modern metal anthem by not listening to the "big" modern metal bands. Those two kind of represent the last acceptable cross-over point between "underground and good" and "mainstream and shit" that exists today.


I think the thread is more about looking for "mainstream and good". I don't think there's even been a metal band that could be considered actual mainstream since Pantera, certainly there's been bands that have been metal and not underground, but not chart bothering as far as I can remember. Nu-metal may have been in this bracket but I wouldn't consider it metal, and it's been dead ten years anyway.
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