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| thejuice |
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:20 pm |
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I've only come across this story (i don't use twitter at all or fb much) but already there seems to be two already well developed conflicting narratives behind the story.
First off Josph Kony from Wiki:
Quote: Joseph Kony (born c. 1961)[1] is a Ugandan guerrilla group leader, head of the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA). While initially enjoying strong public support, the LTA turned brutally on its own supporters, supposedly to "purifying" the Acholi people and turn Uganda into a theocracy ruled by the Ten Commandments.[2] The LRA is a militant group with a syncretic Christian extreme religious ideology, known for the extreme atrocities they commit against civilians, including murder, mutilations, rape, and in some accounts even cannibalism.[6]
Directed by Kony, the LRA has earned a reputation for its actions against the people of several countries, including northern Uganda, the Democratic Republic of Congo, South Sudan, and Sudan. It has abducted and forced an estimated 66,000 children to fight for them, and has forced the internal displacement of over 2 million people since its rebellion began in 1986.[7] In 2005 Kony was indicted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court in The Hague, Netherlands, but has evaded capture.[8]
Fair enough he's a bad cunt.
So there a social network movement set-up to move against him and a viral youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&sns=fb
The aim is to get him so well known and garner much public support of his removal that government will intervene because "You the fans demanded it"
but like any popular movement (like Occupy) the cynics started circling overhead and soon they were picking holes in this bloated beast.
Quote: http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children supports military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.
Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.
Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on supporting ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.
and then there is always the sneaking suspicion of this:
So, like Syria, I'm left wondering what the fuck is really going on? |
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| Snatchgrabber |
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:37 pm |
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| You're a day too late brah everyone stopped giving a shit about it this morning sorry |
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| thejuice |
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:41 pm |
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| I just wanted an excuse to post a picture of Joey DeMaio in his pants really anyway. |
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| blahblahbleh |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:06 am |
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No oil=no intervention.
America is about to stomp all over Iran "In the name of Democracy" |
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| Richieee |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:21 am |
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| Disgorging Legion |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:40 am |
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IN WEST UGANDA, BORN N' RAISED
ON THE BATTLEFIELD IS WHERE I SPENT MOST
OF MY DAYS
CHILLIN' OUT, MAXIN' RELOADIN' ALL COOL
AND TAKING SOME CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR
SCHOOL WHEN A COUPLE OF LIBERALS STARTED
MAKING ME FRET
STARTED MAKING TROUBLE ON THE INTERNET
THEY STARTED ON CAMPAIGN AND MY MEN
GOT DEMANDED,
THEY SAID "YOU'RE MOVIN' WITH YOUR KIDS TO A BARRACKS IN SUDAN" I WHISTLED FOR A VEHICLE AND WHEN IT CAME
NEAR
IT WAS A SCHOOL BUS WITH A BUNCH OF
ARMED KIDS IN THE REAR
IF ANYTHING I COULD SAY THIS BUS WAS RARE
BUT I THOUGH "NAH, FORGET IT. YOU'RE KIDS ARE OUT OF HERE" I PULLED UP IN SUNDAN 'BOUT 7 OR 8
AND I YELLED TO MUSEVENI "UMAD, SMELL YOU
LATER"
LOOK AT MY ARMY COMPOSED OF ALL MY
HOMIES
TO SIT AT MY THRONE, CAUSE IM JOSEPH MOTHERFUCKIN' KONY. |
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| Padre Pio |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:05 am |
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After the farce in Somalia +/- 20 years ago, the US are very, very, very hesitant about doing anything in Africa.
Around the time of the Rwandan genocide there was pressure from the "international community" to do something, but the US authorities wanted nothing to do with it.
I'd be extremely surprised if the US got involved in a major way in anything to do with Uganda. |
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| Juggz |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:21 am |
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You have to ask what's in it for them? The US doesn't impose it's wacky version of freedom when they don't stand to profit from it.
Give it a couple of weeks and the civilised West will have forgotten this dude and gone back to more important matters like making sure the banks who run the show get their cash-money back. |
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| Black Shepherd Carnage |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:14 am |
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| Never heard of this fella, sounds like he'd be popular in Belgium. But in all and anyways, 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, people were far less aware of the MONEYMONEYMONEY potential of Africa's more subtle natural ressources. More subtle than jets of earth's black cum of death like you get in the middle east. Africa be where it at for money today - cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, rare metals, rare cures, weird shit to sell to stupid people. But China have most of this cornered off already ("black man such ENORMOUS penis, we chinese, such small penis" tactics no doubt). America tend to get involved in places by envy anyway, Africa will be no different - as soon as they notice someone else wants something they go after it. |
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| Creeping RM Death |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:28 pm |
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Black Shepherd Carnage wrote: Never heard of this fella, sounds like he'd be popular in Belgium.
Loved it.
While sick of seeing KONY 2012 plastered all over Facebook...mainly by the typical twat who has never done anything before or has a social consciencous but now its all "ooh wont you think of the child"
I didn't see any videos going viral or any facebook posts all about children getting executed in Homs, Syria last week.
What makes the little African child so special, why focus on one rebel force here but forget about others. Either go all out and be an activist and clamber over all causes, or sit back, shut the fuck up and stop posting shit on facebook about how "angered you are" and "how all world governments should get involved"
It's pretty obvious that the Western world nations have enough to deal with, with the current Eurozone crisis, middle eastern involvement, whilst some are focusing on their own re-election campaigns, its hardly going to be a worthwhile endeavour for them to think "ah yes Uganda, it's been a while since we sent forces in there"....unless of course you are the USA, in which there are military advisors there, most likely thinking, i hope this doesnt become a Vietnam.
Guarantee by the end of April, it will be Kony who? |
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| DISRUPTER |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:30 pm |
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| Juggz change your avatar back! |
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| Juggz |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:23 pm |
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DISRUPTER wrote: Juggz change your avatar back! You got it!  |
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| ragnarok |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:50 pm |
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| DISRUPTER |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:05 pm |
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| fobster |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:05 pm |
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| Western world guilt innit. Fucking preachy cunts on Facebook with a social conscience... always posting shit... "raising awareness" but actually getting up off their fucking hole and doing something charitable, even locally? I ain't generalising and maybe some do, but alot of them don't, all fucking talk... too busy browsing the internet for the next big issue, watching some fucking tv show, etc. etc. |
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