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Lecter
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:10 pm Reply with quote
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KNOB HEAD

The open letter:
To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N' Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,

When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N' Roses were to be inducted it'd be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.

Since then we've listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N' Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists' comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.

Under the circumstances I feel we've been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N' Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in "our" induction (that for the record are decisions I don't agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things... no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.

For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine.

That said, I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of "Guns N' Roses".

This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp's perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I'm sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I'll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don't intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we've actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.

In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I've publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing's changed.

The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of "for the fans" or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba.

Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in '06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.

There's a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.

Maybe if it were you it'd be different. Maybe you'd do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We're there for each other when the going get's rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.

So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.

But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on. No one's taking the ball and going home. Don't get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we've endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball's never been in our court.

In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I'd like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns' induction. More importantly I'd like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we've had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N' Roses music.

I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!

Sincerely,

Axl Rose

P.S. RIP Armand, Long Live ABC III

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2012/04/axl-rose-pens-open-letter-to-rock-hall-will-not-attend-asks-to-not-be-inducted.html
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deeeznuuuts
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:16 pm Reply with quote
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what a complete cunt
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dogday
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:19 pm Reply with quote
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The chap is a prick but I'm happy about this.
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PatrickReborn
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:24 pm Reply with quote
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Somebody sum it up for me in one sentence... why isn't he accepting the induction? I've read it and I didn't grasp half of it. Is axl simply a cunthawk?
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Lecter
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:34 pm Reply with quote
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dogday wrote:
The chap is a prick but I'm happy about this.


Why prey tell?
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Lecter
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:37 pm Reply with quote
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PatrickReborn wrote:
Somebody sum it up for me in one sentence... why isn't he accepting the induction? I've read it and I didn't grasp half of it. Is axl simply a cunthawk?


Yes he is the result of cuntology and shitehawkery melding and has spawned what you correctly termed a cunthawk
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Juggz
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:43 pm Reply with quote
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dogday wrote:
The chap is a prick but I'm happy about this.
Agreed. He's shown a bit of backbone for a change, much more agreeable than pretend smiles and some sham ceremony with some people you clearly despise.

However, he should've just said that it is wrong for GnR to be inducted before Rush and left it at that.
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dogday
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:53 pm Reply with quote
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Lecter wrote:
Why prey tell?


Because as he says this induction will send the 'reunion' rumours into super overdrive and it's not what he wants, and it's his band now. The only way to avoid it is to scrubber the whole thing. From a business and strategic point of view it was a good move.

Steven Adler is an annoying cunt and this will hopefully shut him up for good.

Also, the Hall of Fame is a load of shit when you think of the arguably better bands not inducted. He has completely ruined the night and brought their own importance down a few pegs. This is admirable.

As I said, the guy is a prick and half of what's written sounds like a meglomanic who hasn't got his way so drafted a press release with help from his team of lawyers but regardless of the bitter tone he makes many valid points.


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dogday
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:54 pm Reply with quote
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Juggz wrote:
He's shown a bit of backbone for a change, much more agreeable than pretend smiles and some sham ceremony with some people you clearly despise.


And this point too.
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Lecter
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:59 pm Reply with quote
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If he meant what he said he would change the name of the band and play songs only from Chineses Democracy. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth in my opinion.
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thejuice
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:16 pm Reply with quote
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Ah look, enough waters gone under that bridge now, he's right, he wants to move on, and let him go. He might be a wanker, he might not write decent music anymore but for once he has the right idea.

Award shows are a pile shite.
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PatrickReborn
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:28 pm Reply with quote
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I thought it was very bizarre that Green Day were inducting them...
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Reborn
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:11 am Reply with quote
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dogday wrote:
sham ceremony.


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Mesa
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:44 am Reply with quote
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He was always looking a way out of it and sure enough all he had to do was wait on Adler to blow some hot air again and again. Thick as a plank that lad. Then when I seen the Green Day thing I knew that was never going to happen. Anyway he has other people to blame as usual but unfortunately some people just fall into his trap.

I think a reunion would be a let down anyway and that is coming from someone who loves the original band. Better just to watch the old clips from 87/88 on youtube.
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Invictus
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:59 am Reply with quote
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No matter how much Axl wants to convince the world otherwise, the classic era songs he continues to play and let's face it, people go to see him for, were written by other people he constantly tries to revise out of the band's history.
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