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< Music Gear ~ Line 6 Toneport UX2 via Windows 7 |
| polymer |
 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:00 am |
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Recently set up a Line 6 Toneport UX2 on a laptop running Windows 7 Home Premium.
After much tweaking, the Toneport can finally be heard through the laptop's speakers; I'll attach better 'external' speakers at a later date.
However, I'm now experiencing noticeable delays in the sound being sent to the Toneport when playing an instrument. That's about the best way I can describe it... There's also some crackling and clipping.
Any solutions here? Can a better set up be recommended?
According to the Line 6 forums, there appear to be a number of issues using their products through Windows 7. |
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| skadk666 |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:48 pm |
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Someone could well chime in here and correct me as I'm not to educated on these things, although I do have a similar set up to yourself, but isn't this a RAM issue?
Like you dont have enough or something else on the computer is using too much at the same time? |
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| Chooch |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:20 pm |
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| I'd say its to do with the buffer size of your software. Lower sizes means you get that crackle because it cant keep up with the audio, and higher sizes means a larger delay, or latency. You'll have to tweak the size to a workable middle ground in the toneport contol panel. |
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| colin616 |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:55 pm |
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As the other guys said, its latency caused by either a lack of RAM or incorrect buffer size.
I have one of those and its definitely better to monitor through headphones from the interface because you are hearing your guitar sound before it goes through the computer, meaning there's no delay. If you do it this way, though, you will have to disable the audio return to the interface, so that you don't hear the audio coming back from the computer, which would cause the latency problem again.
Hope this helps. |
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| chewy |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:38 pm |
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| Have you thought about using an offboard soundcard so that the audio processing isn't being performed onboard? I bought any offboard soundcard when any CPU intensive work was causing the sound to stutter. |
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| Tezcatlipoca |
| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:03 am |
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chewy wrote: Have you thought about using an offboard soundcard so that the audio processing isn't being performed onboard? I bought any offboard soundcard when any CPU intensive work was causing the sound to stutter.
The Toneport itself as an external sound card. Gearbox is the amp emulating software it uses.
polymer, are you using Windows 7 32 bit or 64? I have the 64 bit version set up to some cheap monitor speakers with 8 gigs of RAM and the Toneport itself is my general sound card. I'm not sure if your specs are in any way similar, but these are the settings I use:
Those could be the default settings for all I remember.. But I'm almost certain I had to change them in order to get everything to work properly. Hopefully something there helps you out. |
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| polymer |
| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:42 am |
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Tezcatlipoca wrote: chewy wrote: Have you thought about using an offboard soundcard so that the audio processing isn't being performed onboard? I bought any offboard soundcard when any CPU intensive work was causing the sound to stutter.
The Toneport itself as an external sound card. Gearbox is the amp emulating software it uses.
polymer, are you using Windows 7 32 bit or 64? I have the 64 bit version set up to some cheap monitor speakers with 8 gigs of RAM and the Toneport itself is my general sound card. I'm not sure if your specs are in any way similar, but these are the settings I use:
Those could be the default settings for all I remember.. But I'm almost certain I had to change them in order to get everything to work properly. Hopefully something there helps you out.
I'm using Windows 7 64 bit. The Toneport seems to 'become' the sound card itself when you choose to hear the sounds it's creating (that was a chore in itself...).
This may seem stupid, but from where do I access the window your image is displaying?
Am I right in saying the lower the buffer size, the better, if experiencing delay/crackling issues? |
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| Tezcatlipoca |
| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:22 pm |
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Yeah, lowering the buffer size should help a bit.
I've just realised now that you haven't mentioned that you're using Gearbox (the software provided with Toneport). I take it you're using something else as an amp modeller? I'm probably out of my depth here.
You can get to that window through Edit > Preferences > Toneport UX2 Driver Settings, provided you're using Gearbox. Any other amp sim software should have its own equivalent somewhere.
I should have asked this before, but is there delay/crackling when the Toneport is used as a regular soundcard, like when you're watching video or listening to mp3s, etc.? |
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| polymer |
| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:42 pm |
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Tezcatlipoca wrote: Yeah, lowering the buffer size should help a bit.
I've just realised now that you haven't mentioned that you're using Gearbox (the software provided with Toneport). I take it you're using something else as an amp modeller? I'm probably out of my depth here.
You can get to that window through Edit > Preferences > Toneport UX2 Driver Settings, provided you're using Gearbox. Any other amp sim software should have its own equivalent somewhere.
I should have asked this before, but is there delay/crackling when the Toneport is used as a regular soundcard, like when you're watching video or listening to mp3s, etc.?
No, I am using Gearbox, all right. I'll look into editing my settings once I've everything connected again this weekend.
Does lowering the buffer size decrease the quality of the 'received' sound, i.e. would a recording program pick up a shabby signal?
I haven't tried using the Toneport as a soundcard itself, I'm purely relying on it for playing guitar/bass when recording. |
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| Chooch |
| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:56 am |
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The settings Tezcatlipoca is using seem fairly daycent, although I'd set that bit depth to 24 if possible, you probably wont hear it but it sure makes a difference!
Aye, lowering the buffer will lessen the storage space for the streaming audio so it will sound a bit naff but too high and there's the delay problem again.
Check out Pod Farm aswell, more software from Line6 with an alright selection of tones, amps, effects and such. Guitar Rig is another nifty program, Stephen Carpenter used it for guitars on the latest Deftones album and runs it straight off the laptop live now! |
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| polymer |
| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:09 am |
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| I'll try tinkering with settings, etc as soon as doable. Thanks for all the responses so far. |
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